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Post by contracts420 on Apr 4, 2008 17:36:42 GMT -5
I dont think the overall feel and environment will surpass RE4. The lake monster and the night with the rain falling and lightning flashing in the distance and the regenerators and just about everything other than gameplay itself wont live up in my view. What do you think. No newschool haters allowed...stay away from this thread.
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Post by Ouji-San on Apr 5, 2008 15:48:50 GMT -5
....I wont say anything related about RE4 sorry.
RE5 will be much better and it dam will have to because RE4 brought the series down.
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 6, 2008 15:00:02 GMT -5
Well in the devs eyes it sure didnt. If you believe they are gonna go back to the roots at all then you got another thing comin. They wont take a step back just cuz some old school lovers are whining about it. Ive seen alot more games make bigger transformations to a series and not that many people whined. But Re fans just cant seem to get over it. Move on people. The RE you love is dead and gone. Bring on the new
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Post by boltdragon on Apr 6, 2008 17:46:34 GMT -5
So rants someone from the "RE4 is the best RE game ever!" group. Seriously, The only things about RE4 that even makes it related to the series is Leon, Wesker, and Ada. NOTHING ELSE! All they did was through in some "ancient parasite" cliche crap and built a game around it. It was doing better when it was the main plot device was a man-made virus. I can understand that better than some cliched crap. The ancient parasite cliche has been around for who knows how long, Capcom just took that old theroy and made a RE game around it hoping that it'll bring fans into something new.
With the level designs and creatures, however, I can't agrue that they weren't bad. Basicly RE4 creatures were, put in RE terms, T-Virus mutations. The major difference was that RE4 creatures were just people being controlled by a parasite, which inturn was being controlled by some Cult leader (which is another cliche theme as well).
Other than that, RE4 is the 2nd most horrible Resident Evil game, standing under RE Mobile. Survivor and Dead Aim were better than RE4!
P.S. Another thing, I do say RE5 will beat RE4 easily, even though its another cliche theme again. Can't really say its cliche yet since there isn't any information on what the thing causing them to go psycho is.
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 6, 2008 22:21:15 GMT -5
I must say anyone who says that is cliche is wrong. The old story was more cliche than it. Big bad company makes a virus and it gets loose causes mass panic. So your one of those people who act like RE was only about the story. Well they couldnt keep umbrella going. If umbrella didnt get destroyed then that would make no sense and ruin the story for me. Somehow the word would have got out. The only way they couldnt kill umbrella is if the president was in on it. Then it wouldnt be about killing infected humans...it would become about killing the humans and the president. So if anything the story needed to go this way or you would have complained even more. I believe RE4 is the best...But Re2 comes in second. You cant win against you people not because you are right. You are just to stubborn.
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Post by boltdragon on Apr 6, 2008 22:46:37 GMT -5
Being so bent on RE4 being the best, you already forgot a line Krauser said during the knife fight.
Krauser," All for Umbrella..."
Leon," Umbrella?"
With Krauser saying that, Umbrella isn't gone. I thought you would of seen that one though?
Oh and the cliche about some company making a virus, there really isn't one. 28 weeks later was just mutated rabies, Dawn of the Dead gave no answer, Land of the Dead gave no answer or I didn't catch it, Shawn of the Dead gave a small but not noticable answer. Notice a trend here? No real answer to the zombie outbreaks have been given. Haven't seen I Am Legend yet so dunno there.
The man-made virus can't be clasified as cliche. Only 2 other things use the man-made virus: House of the Dead series and Dead Rising. Cliche is something that has been done numerous times. An ancient evil/parasite has been done numerous times.
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 9, 2008 3:24:24 GMT -5
Well tell me where else you have seen the ancient evil parasite so called cliche your talking about. I did notice the umbrella pieces in RE4...I know umbrella will be back somehow in some shape or form. I just figure why would people talk so bad about RE4 when its moving the story forward...in a much better direction. There is now alot more cool stuff that could be put in the story thanks to RE4. You are telling me im hell bent on RE4...most of you seem hell bent on the old school ones. So that can go both ways. But i loved the old games just as much as any of you but i was able to move on and enjoy the new one just as much as i did the classics. People just act like so much changed...meanwhile it didnt. You still move like a tank...most of the animations still look the same. The games arent really horror but they have good jump out of your seat moments...and RE4 had those to. It is also survival...because your trying to survive are you not. Otherwise the first ganado would kill you. Shooting them dead is just as much surviving as running around them to save ammunition for something bigger. You may noot agree. but re4 is the best its the only RE to ever win game of the year and it got more praise than any other RE ever made. So i believe i have more than enuff profe as to why its flat out better.
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Post by Wakka on Apr 9, 2008 7:03:45 GMT -5
first off contracts play REUC and beat it as it shows wesker is gonna revive umbrella somehow.
also the ancient symbiote is a cliche. crap i cant remember that movie that used it it had a western theme to it. its where this guy saved a girl from being sacraficed by some cultists that have a symbiote in them... all he had was a rifle and a knife... lets just say he won. also i see where RE4 has failed in character effect where RE5 will succeed
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Post by boltdragon on Apr 9, 2008 15:27:52 GMT -5
Like I've said before in many other things, RE4 was only a huge hit for 2 main reasons:
1. Being a Resident Evil game
2. Leon is the main character.
Other than that, it was...I think I've made my point.
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 9, 2008 17:10:07 GMT -5
Well ss4 you were only able to think of one movie. There are 2 games that have pretty much the same story as the old RE's. BoltDragon you cant say just because leon was in it and it was resident evil that it got so much praise. People praised it for the gameplay and the overall feeling. So you cant say that those were the only reasons. Plenty of people thought the old games were getting stale and its true they were just rehashed games. It was running off an engine made for psone. Now they actually have next generation gameplay. If you want the old style than go play your playstation one and stop whining about how the new ones are so bad. Next of all the characters were great in RE4 and they pushed the story forward. RE5 isnt gonna do much different. So what there is a couple thousand old school fans who whine...there are over a million people who love the new style. So dont act like your right when a million people would gladly say different.
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