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Post by Wakka on Apr 10, 2008 6:56:56 GMT -5
Well ss4 you were only able to think of one movie. There are 2 games that have pretty much the same story as the old RE's. BoltDragon you cant say just because leon was in it and it was resident evil that it got so much praise. People praised it for the gameplay and the overall feeling. So you cant say that those were the only reasons. Plenty of people thought the old games were getting stale and its true they were just rehashed games. It was running off an engine made for psone. Now they actually have next generation gameplay. If you want the old style than go play your playstation one and stop whining about how the new ones are so bad. Next of all the characters were great in RE4 and they pushed the story forward. RE5 isnt gonna do much different. So what there is a couple thousand old school fans who whine...there are over a million people who love the new style. So dont act like your right when a million people would gladly say different. you are right about the next gen style gameplay for RE4 but that only gets it so far. i mean The AI has the mental capacity of a child but on profesional mode The AI had the capacity of a 1st Grader. AND on the pc and ps2 the graphics suck... also there is clipping and bugs.i mean how does a shotgun go through a wall. but all in all it was a fairly decent game as its only redeaming quality are the mods you can get and make
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 10, 2008 20:10:49 GMT -5
Personally i think your wrong. The A.I was smarter than the old games by a long shot. The only reason the A.I seemed smart in the old ones because the gameplay limitations. You also say the graphics suck on ps2 and pc...I can agree on pc but the graphics look great on ps2...not as good as gamecube but still nowhere near bad. You also complain about clipping...Almost every game there is had clipping issues. Even PS3 abd 360 games have that problem so that is not a good complaint what so ever. I swear people come up with the dumbest of excuses to why the game isnt as good. People find some real things that i cant figure something to say about....oh ya there are none. This game has almost everything the old games has and more. So keep em coming because so far I have figured out great reasons to why your examples or w/e just aint true. Plus it sounds to me like your running out of ideas...now you will just throw anything at me like...clipping haha
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Post by hcfwesker on Apr 12, 2008 2:10:23 GMT -5
RE:UC, in my opinion, surpassed RE4, and that's sayinga mouthful. RE4, sure, it was pretty and had lots of cool explosions and bullets a blazing, but Metal Gears of Siphon Crackdown Evil 4 just wasn't the RE game that the series' longtime fans appreciated. you see, it took a certain gamer to play the classic RE games. My friends loved the story and loved to watch me play it, but they NEVER played it themselves. they didn't have the patience to learn the precise movement for the "tank" controls, backtracking NUMEROUS times to find that next key, and find the door it unlocked. solving puzzles that made you think, yes you had to think in classic RE game puzzles. but, now, RE4 has breeded a new fanbase, the "we need ammo, lots and lots of ammo, we don't need no stinkin key, we just blast the door down, backtrack shmacktrack ... I'm only going in one direction this entire game" fanbase of RE4's gameplay. RE4 was an excellent, action packed, welll balanced game, it deserved game of the year, but .... it didn't deserve the RE name. RE5 will, and HAS to surpass what RE4 did, I think just the appearance of Chris and Wesker is already enough to surpass the craptastic story of RE4. Leon? who cares? Take this series back to it's roots ... and I'm not talkin about Plant42, I'm talkin about Wesker vs. STARS! already, the game has surpassed RE4 storywise, we'll have to see, gameplay wise.
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Post by boltdragon on Apr 12, 2008 15:13:33 GMT -5
HCF Wins! Flawless Victory! (ResidentEvilailty?)
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 14, 2008 9:06:59 GMT -5
Nobody can give me a real answer other than Its what a couple hundred thousand people believe. Well a million or so some odd people believe different than all of you thus giving my side the majority. Game of the year and countless reviews saying its better. Fight all you want but the stats dont lie. Old school RE is gone for one reason...It wasnt good enough. To everyone on this site it was. To most people on this planet it wasnt. I loved the old ones back in the day but you all can sit and try and win but your extremely wrong no matter what you think. If you say RE5 will be better just because chris and wesker you are...im not even gonna say it. I dont need to be booted from the site. But you are also wrong and by the way it wont do much different. So expect it to go back to its roots but that will never...I repeat never happen. Keep dreaming people but your wish wont come true. By the way it takes a certain kind of gamer...ya the anime loving ones is what it takes. Im not into anything capcom brings to the table except RE and im sure not into almost any of the stuff you people love. You all should move to japan or something because you dont fit in with america or canada. Im gonna get kicked from this site so fast for my post but in the end listening to you all try and win...I can say its worth it. Like i said...that stats dont lie but you do in order to sleep better at night.
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Post by hcfwesker on Apr 15, 2008 1:38:24 GMT -5
I don't know what kinda MOD you think i am, I'm not gonna boot someone for disagreeing with me, but when you try and send out the insult bomb, i sit back and smile with glee. The fact that you had to try and insult me and other members because you came in and made this thread, thinking you were going to get praised for it, but instead it backfired and some hardcore RE fans from the beginning don't agree with your facts and stats that RE4 is the best.
I never said it wasn't the best selling and most praised title by new gamers to the series. I said it doesn't belong in the RE series.... at all.
You could've replaced Leon's skin with Alvin from Alvin and the Chipmunks, and everyone would've loved it and became Alvin and the Chipmunk fans, but original fans od the cartoon would be like WTF is this???
that's what we're getting at. Change is good for things to get better. But too much change and something becomes something entirely different ... oblivious
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 15, 2008 8:52:37 GMT -5
Well i guess the reason im soo mad at everyone on these boards is because they act like its totally different. Almost everything about the game is the same. Just more bullets less backtracking and less puzzles and the umbrella story is gone. But they are showing the story moving forward and that outbreaks of sorts will still happen. Instead of umbrella now they are focusing on the 20 some odd characters they created and how they will move the story forward. So i guess i just feel the game isnt much different yet others do. If you gave me alot more bullets on a old school RE and put the behind the back camera up...it would feel exactly like RE4. So all im saying is that why hate on something soooooo much the same. It does belong in the series because its the same game but with more bullets and no umbrella or zombies. Thats the only real changes except you dont have to think as much either. Not very many changes at all just enough to keep it fresh. Yet nobody can stand it and i dont get it.
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Post by boltdragon on Apr 15, 2008 19:28:41 GMT -5
Thats what RE was to beign with, USING YOUR HEAD. RE4 what you needed to do was placed in front of you the whole time basicly. Hell it was straight forward too, which made today's lazy gamers happy. Thats what I'm gettin at, RE4 is too easy. Hell I've nearly completed a knife run, on things that are knifeable mind you, and its only taken me about 3 days due to school, work, Phantasy Star Universe, and Gears of War. This is on Pro as well.
Classic RE games made players think alot more. Hell it took me bout 2 hours (I reloaded when I figured it out!) to find one part of a puzzle in RE3.
RE4 might of gotten its praise, but you gotta remember a huge detail: Most of the praise RE4 got was from gaming magizines and gaming sites. Those praises are how the writers felt. Hell, I think a majority of this fourm, atleast 1/4th from Capcom's fourm, agree that RE5 will surpass RE4.
You're just so bent on starting shit for no reason besides you're obsessiveness with RE4. I'm not even a hardcore RE fan as much as I used to so don't try that stupid ass line. Now if you're going to try and insult people, make sure you know how to do it. By saying that you're going to be removed from this fourm is just trying to start trouble. If you read, most likely not, the old debate between a few of us and people who say Outbreak sucked, thats a debate right there. Most of us weren't sayin stupid shit back and forward, just expressing our opinions backed up with small details. You're just going on with your biased opinion. Hell I can probally find atleast 50 people I know that have played RE4 and a previous RE game and say the Classic RE games are better. Capcom just went with the "run-and-gun" style of gameplay since thats where the majority of praise is in the videogaming industry these days.
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Post by hcfwesker on Apr 15, 2008 22:17:01 GMT -5
There's a saying that goes ... "One man's garbage is another man's treasure."And that's true with everything. You're not gonna please 100% every single person no matter the situation. I wish you would understand, it's cool you love RE4, I'm really happy for you. But RE4 is NOT Resident Evil. Sure, it's the direction the series is going in, but it's going to take awhile for me to get use to the change. As i said before, it took a unique gamer to play through the RE games, then replay them again because they enjoyed them so much. Many people shunned away from the series because it required thinking, patience, and exploring. Now, wether you'll admit it or not, Capcom has cashed in on the ever so popular genre of run-n-gun games. You change the names of the characters, and take out the mentioning of the word Umbrella, name the game something like, The Las Plagas, or whatever... and if that game was released, noone would have confused it with the RE series. They may have said it was creepy like RE, but noone would've confused it with an RE title. Read my lips, or, ummm, reads my words RE4 is a great stand alone game, that it offered nothing to the RE storyline or and nothinmg to the series for me, the ONLY thing RE4 did was bring in a new fanbase to the series who has no idea what the term survival horror means **************************************************** And remember, this is a public forum, there's going to be people who do not share the same view as you. Just be cool and accept their opinion. Plus, if there weren't so many of us defending the classic RE game style.... this would've been a dead thread You're welcome
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Post by contracts420 on Apr 16, 2008 9:32:33 GMT -5
The only real reason im going on and on is because you all sit there and say it isnt a true RE meanwhile capcom says different. Its not up to you wether its a true RE its up to them. They are very proud of the finished product no matter what you people want to believe...because they and i know you are all WRONG. But not about everything...some things you are right about and i can agree with. But the only reason you are truly wrong is for saying its not a true RE. It is and if you say different then the only reason you can say that for is because there arent as many puzzles. No umbrella...hell who cares about umbrella anyway it needed to go otherwise there would be so many plot holes and mess ups. I miss it to but they couldnt keep it going along with all the characters plots spinning around it. Wesker and umbrella both having there own virus things going on plus like 20 some odd characters running around...it would be a royal mess.
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